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Xfire Debate Club 15th Meeting: Mobile Gaming
April 28th, 2009 (Open Debate Transcript)


[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I'd say portability makes mobile gaming so popular, because you can take the game with you wherever you go

Riobux (lostchances): Without a shadow of doubt. I'll agree.

GODJonez (godjonez): that's certainly a very strong point for mobile gaming

Riobux (lostchances): Mobile games aren't known for how great they are, gameplay or graphics wise so they just have to rely on portability.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Yes, and the ease of use, at least if you look at the cellphone area

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): What makes it popular?  I would say the fact that you can game anywhere you want, when you want is the main reason but also there is a social aspect to it

[Xfire] OliT (olit): You buy a game, or download it for free. It's fast to download, easy to install and easy to start playing

Riobux (lostchances): But also how cheap they are. A mobile game costs about £5 while a DS or PSP game can cost up to £30.

Riobux (lostchances): It'll never even match DS or PSP in gameplay wise but how cheap they are and because you have a mobile phone anyway, it's useful.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): As far as mobility goes, they definitely beat the PSP / DS market

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Since you always have your phone with you

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I know, I have a DS, and it's ace

GODJonez (godjonez): and in case you get bored when you are traveling, you always have your phone with you and so you can play when you right need entertainment the most

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Indeed O2 gaming seems to hit the nail on the head £5 for new release but they always have half price deals or reduced deals off games as well.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I think we're moving more toward devices being all inclusive

Riobux (lostchances): True, but for people like students, carrying a DS or PSP isn't that much of a big deal.

Riobux (lostchances): I think another thing that makes it appealing is indie games. Games which if they even mentioned the idea to their publisher if they're on even the DS or PSP, they'd just tell them to go away.

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Well it depends on what is classed as Mobile Gaming...I'm guessing with Nokia in the debate then it is about Mobile (Cell) phones...though "mobile gaming" could be classed as "on the move" gaming which the DS and other handhelds are designed to do as well ;)

Riobux (lostchances): I remember playing a great simplistic mobile game once called Spork.

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I'm a fan of Snake, when I had it

Riobux (lostchances): Haha, can't beat the classics.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): look at the ngage

[Xfire] OliT (olit): s60, yay!

* [Xfire] OliT (olit) is running S60 5th ed

Riobux (lostchances): I think one reason why mobile gaming can't quite match the DS or PSP is really hardware capabilities. A mobile can't handle much in terms of graphics or gameplay so it's mostly simplistic.

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): yup love the classics, although I recently found a "sonic" game that was the first 2-3 levels of the classic master system sonic but for the mobile phone. Was trickier than the master system version but certainly worth £5 and it ate up the many hours of boredom when travelling and waiting

Ryan... (ryanisalive): obviously

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Masta, I have an NGage, and I'm talking to my mate on it. The NGage was a failure though

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Yea i have an ngage also

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): i guess it has really to do with what kind of gamer you are

Ryan... (ryanisalive): you cant expect it to compete in that standard but does have more easy access to the games than the psp or ds provides

Riobux (lostchances): The NGage would of been better if you just taped a DS to a phone.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): lol yup

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I have to agree there Rio

MastaGunZ (halo200x): you could even erase the cartridges, and copy your own pirated games over it

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): well how about the iphone or ipod touch

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Ngage was on the same point of no return like Saturn was, except it somehow dodged the massive cliff at the end XD

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): lol

KingNED | FSR #30 (pbclient): Riobux, graphical abilities aren't the only problems, there are sale problems, because games for mobile phones, you can't see many advertisements, while with consoles you see Much more advertisements.

Riobux (lostchances): I have to admit, some of the games on the iPhone are addictive but I could never buy an iPhone.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): It will be interesting to see if Nokia can gain some ground on the app store with Ovi

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): How did it pull that off?

Riobux (lostchances): King, that's really because there's very small demand.

Riobux (lostchances): Not to mention, there's somewhat of a difficulty in some people getting the games.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Well iphone and ipod touch arent really meant for gamers, just the store and low price makes it ez to sell ported flash games

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): I think something like the Asus N10j is more worth the cost than something like the iPhone

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Why aren't they\\\\/

KingNED | FSR #30 (pbclient): and, the controls are limited too, you don't have enough buttons to match modern games needs

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): ?*

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): The iPhone is rubbish, in my opinion. My mum has one, and my mate modded his to high heaven

MastaGunZ (halo200x): lawl

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): They are obviously aimed at gamers, other wise they wouldn't bother releasing the apps

Riobux (lostchances): I think it's strong to say that to be honest.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I bought the iPhone 3G the day it came out, I actually queued for a couple of hours

Riobux (lostchances): I think it's more aimed at the young adult crowd.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): and it was a great entertainment device. I absolutely adore "remote"

[Xfire] OliT (olit): But, as a phone, it left a lot to be wished for

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I mean why queue for long hours just to buy a phone?

MastaGunZ (halo200x): so gamers enjoy hardcore playing fantastic contraption and super monkey ball?

Riobux (lostchances): When you're a retarded iPhone fan boy Leeds.

KingNED | FSR #30 (pbclient): but Olit, don't you think you payed way to much for a phone?

*<|xD  G-}{ell (ghangster): the iPhone is just not for games, i think only a touchscreen without any buttons never works for games except for that little addictive ones

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I'm used to paying between 400 and 600 Euros for a phone

Ryan... (ryanisalive): also not to mention ihpone is really only useful in america

MastaGunZ (halo200x): it seems more aimed toward the casual market then gamers

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): Well in my opinion for the next few year mobile gaming will not be as huge. For the further future though I think mobile gaming could really control the market. People over the years have really became much improved travelers...the number of travelling people will only get larger over the years, because of new ways of transportation.

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Only good thing about Iphone is that it is easy to use as a music player for cars but to be honest there are some good apps on there and it is a breakthrough within technology, got to give that to apple atleast

Ryan... (ryanisalive): iphone*

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Good thing I'm not one Rio, I still use NGage, as I've said. Most expensive phone I had cost me £70

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I have a Nokia 5800 Express Music Right now, and it's the cheapest one I've had for years

Riobux (lostchances): Most expensive phone I've paid for cost about £40.

Riobux (lostchances): I'm still using it now.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Before the iPhone, I had a Nokia N95, which was also equally or more expensive

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I'm looking to get a new phone when I go on contract. But to me, a phone is a phone. I don't want a gaming phone.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): i wouldnt mind it

Riobux (lostchances): Before the Motorola I have now, I was exclusively into Nokia.

Riobux (lostchances): Mainly due to the other brands having a flick up feature I still hate.

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): What did Simon Oliver say about Java gaming?

MastaGunZ (halo200x): i can play elder scrolls on my ngage even though its SHEET

Riobux (lostchances): Not sure.

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Nokia 6300 here. Tbh Nokia have the best phones and reliable ones too. Though I still wished I had my Nokia 3210, awesome phone that was

Dabbs (dabbster): I support mobile gaming!

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): I recently got a BlackJack with Windows mobile because i like the idea of just loading up some small retro games and playing for a while

KingNED | FSR #30 (pbclient): a phone is supposed to be for calling or sending text messages, you have other devices for the rest, people just want it the easy way, so manufacturers put as much as they are able to in a phone, including the capability to play games

BIH (yeaoo): lol

BIH (yeaoo): hi all

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Id like to play dosbox on my mobile

Riobux (lostchances): True Sal, but then they just jumped on the flick up bandwagon and I hated them.

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I use my phone for web browsing, I must admit

BIH (yeaoo): k

BIH (yeaoo): wher are you all from ?

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): It's useful, especially when I was clan leader, and forgot to set up an event and parental controls had logged me off for the night

BIH (yeaoo): lol

Riobux (lostchances): I don't know where Leeds is from.

Riobux (lostchances): I'm guessing...Southhampton.

BIH (yeaoo): sweden

MastaGunZ (halo200x): texas

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I'm from Sweden

BIH (yeaoo): vadstena

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): holland

BIH (yeaoo): tja

MastaGunZ (halo200x): IM FROM TEXAS YALL

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Well there is one flip I like of Nokia's but yeah I agree with you on that. Funny though, I used to repair mobile phones for a living and it was always the flips that came in for repair. Not much you can do to repair them either

BIH (yeaoo): tja

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Hej :)

BIH (yeaoo): var bor du då ?

[Xfire] OliT (olit): (That means "Hi" for all of you non-swedes"

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Gällivare

[Xfire] OliT (olit): That's a town

BIH (yeaoo): LOL

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Let's keep this in English ;)

BIH (yeaoo): orka

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Howdy

BIH (yeaoo): orka  bo i norrboten

BIH (yeaoo): bor i vadstena

MastaGunZ (halo200x): ????!!

Dabbs (dabbster): erm...

Riobux (lostchances): Gudan tag.

BIH (yeaoo):  i östergötland

[Xfire] OliT (olit): BIH, can you talk english, please?

MastaGunZ (halo200x): ????

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Let's not leave everyone else out of this discussion

BIH (yeaoo): lol yes

Riobux (lostchances): ...I'm fooling no one...

[Xfire] OliT (olit): He's saying that I live in the wilderness

[Xfire] OliT (olit): and that it sucks

BIH (yeaoo): hur gammal ?

BIH (yeaoo): är du

[Xfire] OliT (olit): While he himself lives in a more central area

Dabbs (dabbster): O_o um... thats a good reason for mobile gaming

Riobux (lostchances): I think I met someone from Swedan once. Great guy.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): All Swedes are great

BIH (yeaoo): i have medal of hounur ariborne on mobile any one elsE ?

Dabbs (dabbster): especially the ones who support mobile gaming

*<|xD  G-}{ell (ghangster): please don't get off-topic :)

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): whats the use of a debate like this when I cant even talk about the subject with others

Riobux (lostchances): Fine...Kill joy...

MastaGunZ (halo200x): HHA

KingNED | FSR #30 (pbclient): Micro Counterstrike ;) game with an entire group with Bluetooth ;)

Riobux (lostchances): Short answer Rob: No.

BIH (yeaoo): hallo any one get medal of honur on mobile ?

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): yes Xav is the man, he mentioend Battlefield Heroes Beta :P

MastaGunZ (halo200x): I got micro CS

Riobux (lostchances): Long answer: Hardware problems.

BIH (yeaoo): got

MastaGunZ (halo200x): no one plays

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): No, dedicated handheld consoles will always top phone games. There is nothing a phone can do to match a DS for example.

BIH (yeaoo): lol

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I can't wait to finish this debate and go play BF:Heroes beta

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Did the fix the website so it works again?

BIH (yeaoo): idk

BIH (yeaoo): hur gammal är du

BIH (yeaoo): ??

[Xfire] OliT (olit): 22 :)

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Believe So...btw I have 2 spare beta keys ^_^

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Let's talk more about gaming, less about me, BIH

BIH (yeaoo): k

BIH (yeaoo): lol

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Agreed Oli

BIH (yeaoo): have any 1 finished medal of honur on mob ?

Riobux (lostchances): Can't say I even have it.

BIH (yeaoo): why ?

Riobux (lostchances): My sim card hates the internet apparantly.

BIH (yeaoo): lol

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Mobile gaming will never compete or surpass dedicated handheld consoles however they will and are an "alternative" like next gen consoles are an alternative to the PC

BIH (yeaoo): thats weird

BIH (yeaoo): i have cod4 on mobile

MastaGunZ (halo200x): O RLY

Riobux (lostchances): Yeah, it is weird for a piece of metal and plastic to have feelings.

BIH (yeaoo): yea

BlackbirD (sweblackbird): 1

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): Here is where Xfire users should debate the same questions that special guests are discussing in the Main Floor. This room will be moderated and spammers will be immediately removed from the chat. This room will also be read by Xfire staff after the chat and will be the basis for invitations to the Xfire Debate Club Clan: The Two-Handed Sword.

BIH (yeaoo): cod4 owns on mobile

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): i bet no one of you is even following what being said on main floor

BIH (yeaoo): lol

MastaGunZ (halo200x): can cod4 mobile save mobile gaming?

GODJonez (godjonez): I am

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): really proud of the moderators in here

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): nice job

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Skoft, try reading ;)

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I would say Nintendo and Sony can and WILL catch up. It's not a question of can they, it's a question of when will they.

Riobux (lostchances): BIH, shut up and get on topic.

BIH (yeaoo): LOL

[Xfire] OliT (olit): If you get out of order, I'll kick you

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): 4. Unofficial Chatter

BIH (yeaoo): i did

MastaGunZ (halo200x): ????!

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I've told you several times already BIH, please keep this purely related to the topic

BIH (yeaoo): omfg

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): what the hell has where I live to do whit the subject

BIH (yeaoo): has any 1 played brother in arms hells highway ?

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): It doesn't but the mods will sort it, let them do their job and be done with it

Riobux (lostchances): Skoft, what does whining have to do with the subject? If you want to go on subject then set a good example.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Can we get back on topic plz?

BIH (yeaoo): what the hell are we talking about then ?

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Mobile phone gaming

BIH (yeaoo): LOL

BIH (yeaoo): do it then

*<|xD  G-}{ell (ghangster): sorry fot this off-topic and maybe a stupid question, but why can't i see a 'main floor' chatroom?

BIH (yeaoo): thahah

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Ask a mod to invite you to the main floor room

Riobux (lostchances): Did anyone have that ringtone creator that was on the early models? I wonder why they took that off...

Riobux (lostchances): God, that was the cheapest way to have monophonic ring tones that was custom made, sounded good and free.

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Oh, I have that on my NGage, they took it off because monotone ringtones became obselete

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Because people used it for annoying tones and there was no need for it after MP3 format came out

[Xfire] OliT (olit): ghangster, I'll ask debateox to invite you

Riobux (lostchances): Why didn't they ever make a polyphonic version?

BIH (yeaoo): i have asony ericson

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): They did...I think

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Because people would have made annoying polyphonic ringtones

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Or it might have been on selected models

Riobux (lostchances): I mean, it wasn't removed recently. I've never had it since the Nokia 1430 (I think that was the name...).

Riobux (lostchances): Just saw it on that model.

GODJonez (godjonez): !mute yeaoo

[Xfire] OliT (olit): !pwn BIh

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Thank you Oli

[Xfire] OliT (olit): !pwn yeaoo

[Xfire] OliT (olit): No muting here

[Xfire] OliT (olit): We kick!

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): So was that a perma ban from this channel?

Riobux (lostchances): Pissy attention seeking idiot...

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Yes

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): I think Olit should be the TTHS mascot :P

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Let's get back on topic.... tbh, I don't know how the other app stores will fare. I'm assuming if they take Apple's approach they'll do very well.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I've had a look at Nokia Ovi

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): I think developers and MS can really get into this market with Games for Windows Mobile

[Xfire] OliT (olit): and while it's quite nice, it needs more stuff

Riobux (lostchances): The thing about Apple is they found very large holes in the market and they filled it.

[Xfire] Merciless (stanfordsdaria): I personally have a blackberry and the app store leaves alot to be desired. I hope that it'll improve but so far my apps are battery hogs.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): and, I couldn't use it with the 5800 for some reason

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Since it has a new operating system version

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Pretty interesting setup from Nokia

Riobux (lostchances): So the chances Sony or Nokia will get close to Apple is very very weak.

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I would assume so Rio

Riobux (lostchances): Partly due to most people getting Apple phones and partly because they're very good at finding weak points and twisting the market by it's balls.

GoW*ArEs:D (eqares): hi

!  matius v?? ™  ? (soldiermd): hi

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): hello

Zxx (digimax): Hi.

=SPoT= (spot117): hey everybody

GoW*ArEs:D (eqares): add me

?//*=I(SKY)D0m1n4t0r???I (shadownight01): hi

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Well, that's one way to put it Rio. but then again, Apple are gonna have no chance for example, against Microsoft, but that's off-topic

GoW*ArEs:D (eqares): add me: eqares

Xanath  www.h2k-gaming.eu (killerangelo): hi all

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Not only that Rio but every company has a weakness and a strength, Nokia's is building strong and reliable phones, Sony's is making creative and "expressive" phones...apple's is completely dominating the software market

Riobux (lostchances): I don't know Leeds. I think Apple is very good at holding it's ground. Sure it's a bit meh at new ground but once it gets a grip, it's hard for it to even budge.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Apple is good at doing what they usually do, even though they have less hardware to work with, they do it very well

Riobux (lostchances): Do they Olit?

[Xfire] OliT (olit): What is say is the absolute truth.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): or rather, I don't know. Do they? ;)

Riobux (lostchances): Those sly dogs...

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): lol

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Yea, they can be very sly can apple, I thought the iPhone was gonna be a complete and utter fail, but I have been stood corrected

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): i have a nokia phone and all i use it for at the moment is to play one game  and thats bejeweled when am out and about or waiting to use my pc

-=KF=- Daviss (joonaqwe): I have like 26 games on my mobile, n95

-=KF=- Daviss (joonaqwe): from Mobile9

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): i have one game from nokia and thats about it am more of a pc gamer then anything els

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Well, a think a problem with Mobile gaming is people fear the compatibility.

Riobux (lostchances): I have one game on my Motorola and it's dreadful.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Hence they download it.

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): only thing is to download games to mobile you have to pay more?

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I'll admit, I am also a PC gamer. I just don't think mobile gaming can stand up against PC games.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Not necessarily.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): USB cables.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): iPhones & iPod Touches aren't... mobiles as such.

Dabbs (dabbster): it doesnt have to stand up against pc games

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): What about laptops?

Riobux (lostchances): Leeds, mobile games vs PC games or console games is like a quadraplegic vs an Irish boxer.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): But they can compete with other handhelds.

Dabbs (dabbster): Laptops suck for gaming xD

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): NOT mine

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): I'm irish! :D

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): :)

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): i hate latops

MastaGunZ (halo200x): not mine

[Xfire] OliT (olit): My laptop owns for gaming!

Dabbs (dabbster): mine lags

MastaGunZ (halo200x): MY LAPTOP OWNS U

[Xfire] OliT (olit): or rather, it works quite well

GODJonez (godjonez): mine doesn't

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Laptops are just more expensive.

Dabbs (dabbster): lol

Dabbs (dabbster): and more portable

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): Mine I got for 799

MastaGunZ (halo200x): My laptop was $400 came with an 8700gt

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): also there a pain in the butt to upgrade

Riobux (lostchances): I'm too cheap for a laptop.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): and a 9650m gt

[Xfire] OliT (olit): T9400 with lots of ram and a decent graphics card (or rather two cards) is plenty to play with

Dabbs (dabbster): pff,youall suck >.> 1k

Riobux (lostchances): I'm going retro with a desktop.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): why would I want to upgrade what already plays everything

[Xfire] OliT (olit): and I'm one of those guys that never play on high settings

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): me neither

Dabbs (dabbster): MOBILE GAMING!

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Emulators own most movile games tbh.

Riobux (lostchances): I'd like to play on the high settings...Just can't...

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): mobile*

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): i don't think it will replace the pc gaming

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Never.

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): so i be happy

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I love playing on max settings, but the problem is, I bluescreen on many games, and that's not down to lack of resources

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): My new PC is very powerful, but it's not mobile at all.  It weighs over 60 pounds.  ;)

Xanath  www.h2k-gaming.eu (killerangelo): i think psp and DS are thaking in alot of ground on portable gaming

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): NO phones will replace PC

WNxBadboy3|GM|DJ| (alientech1): lol artaxs

[Xfire] OliT (olit): You can tie some straps to it and carry it on your back, Artaxs

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Did ya spend $10'000 on it Artaxs?

[Xfire] OliT (olit): You'd probably need some batteries as well, though

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): If my DS was a phone, I might game mobile.  ;)

GODJonez (godjonez): some serious batteries

Riobux (lostchances): Get some car batteries Artax.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): That's something nintendo could do

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): and sony

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): N-Gage FTL

MastaGunZ (halo200x): NGAGE WAS A WASTE OF $50

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): but Nintendo could probably pull it off

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I have an NGage Artaxs, don't dis em while it's the only phone I have!

GoW*ArEs:D (eqares): ??

Riobux (lostchances): NGage was an insult to the game industry.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): Ngage doesn't have the range of games and the community that sony and nintendo do

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Nintendo should remake the NES as a cheap handheld...

Riobux (lostchances): They have Sasuke.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): they did its called the gameboy

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): of course, we'd have to buy a new phone with a new doo-dad on it every year if we were buying Nintendo DS phones.

Riobux (lostchances): You just need duct tape and your phone.

Riobux (lostchances): Whola.

Riobux (lostchances): DS and phone in one.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): LOL bulky as >>>

MastaGunZ (halo200x): psp has skype on it

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): then again, people are already blowing $400 on iPhones that are going to obsolete in a few months.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): so its almost there

Riobux (lostchances): When's the end of the chat by the way?

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): Man, the PSP would be *great* if it had some games on it.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): and they get tied into data plans to boot

MastaGunZ (halo200x): PSP does have games

MastaGunZ (halo200x): download em ALL

MastaGunZ (halo200x): duke 3d wolfenstien quake doom

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): it's better hardware than the DS, but by comparison, the game library for Nintendo is huge.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): ...

MastaGunZ (halo200x): The modding scene for PSP more then makes up for that

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): DS has a lot of EPIC FAIL games though.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): yup

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): Yes

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Example... Fashion Designer..

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): -faceslap-

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Halo portable for psp is coming out

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): Barbie and sponge bob games

MastaGunZ (halo200x): its a fan made quake mod

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): I tried to Hack my old Japanese PSP.

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): good with the bad -- what I would like to see is more connectivity between the DS and the Wii

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): But. Battery would not open.. hehe.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Managed to Hack mii wii easy.

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): I think the only game I've seen that takes advantage of the DS / Wii Wi-Fi connection is Pokemon.  /sigh

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Lol Xav, that's what the Battlefield Hardcore gamers are shouting at DICE "Why make Battlefield Heroes when you could be making Battlefield 3" XD

MastaGunZ (halo200x): They made bf 1943 instead

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): they are making both at the same time

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): I hate Battlefield heroes now.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I'm a hard core Battlefield gamer, and I love BF: Heroes so far

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): heroes will be a free 2 play

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): They "updated" nothing.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): and they are making a free  BF2 game for korean markets calld BF ONLINE

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Took away everyone items and were like.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Hey! We made it awesome!

MastaGunZ (halo200x): BF online is like bf2 for nubs

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): I like BF heroes a lot

MastaGunZ (halo200x): u cant even reload the planes

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Remake all your characters and use your credit card to get all your old stuff back!

MastaGunZ (halo200x): all wepons are pray and spray

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): What name you go by Olit? Might meet you on the battlefield someday ;)

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): BF2 & BF:BC are the funnest me thinks.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I haven't played it for a while, but I used to be [AKG] codeseven.OliT

GODJonez (godjonez): who else thinks that PseudoQuest on mobile would be win?

MastaGunZ (halo200x): BFBC2 for PC right?

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): I don't really like BF: BC that much kind of off in terms of the Battlefield style of play

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Ive got a 360 and PS3 also but i never got BFBC

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Mirror's Edge was good now. They fix the few flaws and the next one in that would be awesome. DICE are on the right track... they just need to stay on it.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): to Ultra: The demolition is fun! :D

Riobux (lostchances): Wonder how long until they release online chess on the mobile.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): They have.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): thats about it...1943 will have that as well

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): it's a shame that Xaroth couln't attend this Debate.

Riobux (lostchances): You know, besides texting your moves.

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): lol Olit is now Inspector Gadget XD

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): He'll have PseudoQuest on the iPhone soon, I'm betting.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): is there a way to escape from this debate he keeps reinviting me

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I'm always inspector gadget!

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I've got hands reaching out of my hat

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): XD

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): lol

Riobux (lostchances): Gloves =/= hands.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Hands  ~= Gloves

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Naruto is better :P Lol.

[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): in a little less than 15 minutes

[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): oops wrong window :)

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Xd

[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): please go on :pp

GODJonez (godjonez): hah

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Unfortunately, I'm gonna miss this event... crap.

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): nothing to see here, move along...just a mod messing up is all...move along people! :P

[Xfire] OliT (olit): He didn't mess up, it was just to confuse you!

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Damn me being a Anglo-Irish, person!

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): I wish I was Japanese....

MastaGunZ (halo200x): u are wapanese instead

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Lol. No.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Lol. Yes.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Wapanese is stupidity.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): We already have social gaming with Xfire and Gamespy comrade

MastaGunZ (halo200x): ANd here u R

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Whatwhat Whatrade?

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Never mention that thing here!

[Xfire] OliT (olit): ;)

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): now xbox live community and PSN home as well

Riobux (lostchances): Stupid white people trying too hard to be like an anime character

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Rasengan!

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Hard like anime...? Lol...

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Kinda the opposite no?

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): leave the weeaboo's alone XD

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Lawl ok

- Ltв -Jø?I? -(DWM) (joris579): hi

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Girls who wanna be so "Kawaii".

Riobux (lostchances): Haha, good point.

Riobux (lostchances): Guys dressing up as anime girls disturb me.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Lol.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): lawl

KingNED | FSR #30 (pbclient): xD

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Cosplaying.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): lol

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): guys dressing as girls = disturbing anyway XD

Riobux (lostchances): Not always...

[Xfire] OliT (olit): I'm not sure if this is really related to mobile gaming?

MastaGunZ (halo200x): but its fun

*<|xD  G-}{ell (ghangster): is this on-topic? :)

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): I'd love ta try the none-transexual version.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): STOP

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Lol.

Riobux (lostchances): Of course it is OliT, they are the sin of mobile gaming.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): ...

MastaGunZ (halo200x): Break the law on my watch will ya?

GODJonez (godjonez): don't we have the unofficial chatter room for this?

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Yes, we do

Riobux (lostchances): Fine, I'll keep it on topic.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): OK!

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): EA

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Fail?

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): I mean, I post these transcripts for the Debate Rooms on the site.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Overpricing on Mobile games?

MastaGunZ (halo200x): THEN PAY WITH YOUR BLOOD!

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Where were we at?

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): I saw an ad for playing a Simpsons game on my phone last night....  while watching Family Guy on Hulu.

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): ANYHOOO...just to put my 2 cents on something my question got. Competition...is it really good for mobile gaming? Only reason I ask is because we all know what happens when we get beaten, anger is involved and we throw the controller....would'n't want to do the same to my phone :P

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Hehe.

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I would agree competition is bad on the mobile

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I've got beaten before, and I once smashed my desktop PC to pieces as a result

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): I'm smart enough to not to get angry over games. :P

Riobux (lostchances): There's competition?

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): LOL

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): unless it's the old dreamcast

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): then bash away

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Going off again.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): sorry

Riobux (lostchances): I'm going to head off. My rice has turned into rice pudding.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Np. Just warning so the mods aren't like. "Right sonny boy? Been naughty have we?!"

Riobux (lostchances): Bye.

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Mobile Gaming: Fad

Riobux (lostchances): Oh wait.

Riobux (lostchances): It's a fad.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): I say it's a fad as well

MastaGunZ (halo200x): fad

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): According to my Biorythem reader (on my phone) I'm at -89 Intellectually today.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): And it keeps dropping.

[Xfire] Artaxs (artaxs): Mobile Gaming is the Future, but I'm just too old to ajust to new things.  ;)

MastaGunZ (halo200x): actually it is future but a casual future

MWM|**Ocelot** (anth1337): Hi everyone :)

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Biorythm*

MastaGunZ (halo200x): there will always be games on mobile phones

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): too many people like "apple iphone is the best thing EVER!"

Riobux (lostchances): I think one day Sony and Nintendo will put a phone feature on their portable consoles.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Sony And Nintendo Should Join.

Riobux (lostchances): Then the mobile phone game industry is screwed.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): It'd be so Epic.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): yup

Riobux (lostchances): You'd think that Sas, but you'd wrong.

Riobux (lostchances): *you'd be wrong.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Things would be so different if Philips didn't exist... ._ .

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Yeah, once Nintendo and Sony get their grimy claws on the mobile gaming industry, it'll go kapoof"

MastaGunZ (halo200x): together nintendo and sony can screw up anything

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Example?

MastaGunZ (halo200x): get your own

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): ...That was a believable point. :P

MastaGunZ (halo200x): well they both managed to prove FPS on portable sux

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Agreed

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Just stay of Doom for the Wii.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): You'll be okay.

Riobux (lostchances): Sony and Nintendo contribute different things to the gaming world.

Riobux (lostchances): Put together and it'd be ruined.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): apparently they cant make room for 2 analog sticks and face buttons

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): PSP 2 Rumors are going about. Not the OMG someone made a stupid CGI ones.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): o rly

Riobux (lostchances): The "wow, I didn't see that coming" ones?

MWM|**Ocelot** (anth1337): Lol

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): fad or future? I wouldn't say either really, it will still be around but I doubt it will ever conquer or come close to proper gaming, especially the way today's technology is rapidly changing by the month in PC's and consoles. Personally I believe it will always stay at the back of the line but certainly won't be ruled out when it comes to being bored, traveling or waiting for something. My DS got me through a flight to Berln and back, so I'm happy

MastaGunZ (halo200x): thats what i said

MastaGunZ (halo200x): except the flight to verlin part

MastaGunZ (halo200x): berlin*

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): XD

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Only when proper computers become mobile will mobile gaming become good.

MWM|**Ocelot** (anth1337): Berlin is lovelly in the summer :)

MastaGunZ (halo200x): when you can play crysis on your phone then it will be

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): I go to live there in June ;)

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): I think it's that time. The time the debate is wrapped up.

Riobux (lostchances): Ah, thank god.

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): lol

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): It's been lovely to debate with everyone again. And hopefully I'll see ya again next time.

MastaGunZ (halo200x): now i can gtfo

Riobux (lostchances): Rice pudding and chilli...

[Dogz] Skoftebok (binnenlandsefunk): yeah suchs a lovley debate. not

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): good debate

MWM|**Ocelot** (anth1337): Lol, nice one. sorry i missed so much of it...

MastaGunZ (halo200x): gg

Ultra-Isodor (tootall4wsu): Bye

[Xf Helper] Kumbol (kumbol): no worries, the transcript will be up tomorrow =D

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Ok guys

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Yes, let us not forget all the guests here. Who gave us such a brilliant insight into mobile gaming

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Thanks a lot for showing up

[Xfire] OliT (olit): as usualy, this was super exciting

[Xfire] OliT (olit): -y

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Not half Oli

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): Thanks for the debate guys, both here and the main floor ;)

Riobux (lostchances): Anyway, I'm off. Nice chat.

MWM|**Ocelot** (anth1337): Anytime ;)

Riobux (lostchances): Bye.

[Xfire] OliT (olit): Thanks, and welcome back next time

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Yep, it's been a great debate, like I've already said

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Thanks.

Sasuke |UKCS| Relic (relickylias777): Bye

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): Now hopefully I can get World of Warcraft fixed tonight =/

[TTHS] Salvenius (sh4dowj): lol good luck on that Leeds

[TTHS] Leeds© (leedsmauler): thanx, I'll need it

[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): thanks for attending everyone ~

[Xfire-TTHS] Debateox (debateox): bye